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Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 20th, 2025, 9:28 am
by Andy
The course is live now - sorry for the delay.

https://linkscorner.org/courses/course.php?crz=2851

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 20th, 2025, 9:57 am
by Pete
This came up but was able to continue great job Ian

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 20th, 2025, 10:54 am
by dwg
Ian

I have looked at the 14th hole on 3 machines:

Windows 11 + Intel Xe graphics + dgVoodoo - I get the two trees in the distance

Windows 11 + Nvidia GT1030 - I get the 2 extra trees

Linux + Intel 620 graphics - No extra trees

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 20th, 2025, 12:38 pm
by Ian Wells
Andy,
Thank you. I didn't add a comment to the request for upload. my apologies.

Pete,
APCD really knows how to frustrate the user.
I also had this error message and after checking I assumed the fault was a verts issue. I therefore ensured that the verts around the water were higher than the verts of the water. Some weren't, so I adjusted them and replayed the hole, with no problems. I will again check the verts around the water.
If any designer out there can give me any advice please let me know. :whistle:

Des,
Links really knows how to frustrate the user.
Thanks for checking this out. I thought/hoped that you would be able to resolve the issue.
How can the graphics part of a system add trees that are not there?

At least this problem is not a major concern. It is of no concern to the player if the trees are shown or not as they are not interfering with the play.

Thank you to both,
Ian

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 20th, 2025, 12:56 pm
by dwg
I was not really sure what I was looking for until I fired the course up on Linux as my two Windows machine both had the extra trees. Go figure, it looks to be a bit on the random side. I have since looked at the 14th on my Linux desktop, no extra trees there either.

The error I have not seen but I suspect that is location dependent.

I have played one quick round on both Windows and Linux notebooks without problem.

It is a well crafted course and it all fits together, I have not noticed any areas of concern so far, you have done well. I did manage to mostly keep the ball on the short stuff for a change.

I can see why you would like to use the club's images as previews they are well done and would work nicely in Links.

A comment on the course itself, in playing it I felt that a few of the holes, especially on the back nine do not seem to fit in with the overall feel of the course, don't know why but that is the feeling I got, this of course goes back to the design of the course in real life.

Over the next day or so I will play the course on my other two systems, both desktops.

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 20th, 2025, 8:22 pm
by Colin Jones
Looks beautiful Ian, great work. 6 or 7 designs in the past year - unbelievable! The community is lucky to have you - you're a machine.

For the lake, just check those verts levels like you said. Ensure it's flat and I always like to have neat work around reflective water. May not be your problem though as mistakes around reflective water often result in those wierd distorted graphics, not in error messages.

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 21st, 2025, 1:32 am
by Southcitygolf
Great job Ian. :thumbup:
I had a problem when I got to the 8th hole, a crash going to the tee. Unable to resume. Went practice mode and opened on the 8th hole. Will retry a full 18 later. I'll have a video posted by morning :fcrossed:

UPDATE : Replayed a full 18, No issues. :cheers1:

https://youtu.be/VWFSzkP8BDA

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 21st, 2025, 1:47 am
by dwg
There is something going on there. I've had the course crash after playing the Tee shot on the 9th (which ended up on the green)

No message from Links. Typical sort of thing from Event viewer which I have attached. Was able to resume. This is on Windows 11 with Nvidia GT1030 no dgVoodoo. The stop code is a memory access violation.

Otherwise the course looks really good. It plays well and I like the texture and colour choices. No problems stood out. If you said Des be really pickey the only thing I could say is the angles of the right hand tee boxes looks wrong, which shows how little wrong there is with the look.

The clubhouse is well done.

Des

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 21st, 2025, 11:31 am
by Ian Wells
Gentlemen,
I have spent the last 7 hours examining every vertex around the lake and I have "tidied up" where the stream on the 12th enters the lake and where the textures change, and each time I test, (15 times so far), the same problem exists. My patience has reached it's limit for today, so tomorrow I will change the texture to non-reflective and test that.

Des,
I am sure that the error codes make sense to the original programmers but as far as I know nobody on this forum knows what they mean.

Colin,
6 or 7 designs in the past year - unbelievable!
It's only 5 but for me that is exceptional for me, if only I had a life :smile:
Hopefully, tomorrow I will have better luck. (Certainly better luck than the batsmen in Perth.) :whistle:

Thanks again,
Ian

Re: The Virtues Golf Club

Posted: November 21st, 2025, 12:18 pm
by dwg
Ian,

At the Windows level the crash makes sense to me as I used to do Windows crash analysis many years ago, How it relates to Links however is another matter.

It means that something in Links is trying to access memory it should not, hence Windows stops it. I can only assume there must be something around the 8th or 9th hole triggering it, but the condition is not necessarily set at that exact point, it is only triggered then if that makes sense. I would not expect it to be too far before that point though. It is not a hardware error.

So far I have only seen it on a machine that has a HBA with its own memory, it has not crashed on machines where I am using embedded GPUs with shared memory, is that significant, perhaps, I do not know, does it help, doubt it, I think it would need someone with the source code to tell us that.

Des