Links and Linux

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Anguis
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Re: Links and Linux

Post by Anguis »

Happy New Year! This is a great resource 👍. I might have to write up what I find for Radeon GPU settings, in the thick of that right now.
Armand
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Re: Links and Linux

Post by Armand »

Des, I've followed your notes while trying to adapt them to my MX Linux 23.4 (bookworm) distro. Aside from a few minor differences, the procedure is the same. I had to install a GUI for Wine/Winetricks, since MX linux didn't have one be default. I chose zenity, since it was the first one suggested (the other was kdialog). I must not get get the same winetricks menu as you, because I had to choose "uninstall a program" to get a screen where I also had an option of adding a program. Then, selecting the Links downloadable version went to the installation (I changed the path the C:\Links2003).

However, I'm struggling to start Links - it tried to run immediately after installation, but then failed as expected. I cannot seem to start it from the command line ('wine LinksMMIII.exe'), and winetricks doesn't seem to get me an option to run installed programs. My only option is to run explorer from Winetricks and then find and run LinksMMIII.exe (right-click | open or double-click). But, it still crashes all the time - I see the splash screen once, and then it crashes. LinksLauncher.exe does nothing when I try to start that.

I think I have two options now:
1. Try to install a 'clean 32-bit Winetricks', since I get warned about running a 64-bit Winetricks on each start. Then try it all again.
or
2. Load Linux Mint (32-bit?) and try that, even with my old hardware.

:dunno:
dwg
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Location: Australia

Re: Links and Linux

Post by dwg »

I have AntiX installed but have not tried Links on that machine, it really is not up to it, an Atom N270 processor. Hence I have only tried Links on Mint and in my case with the MATE desktop, not that I think that would make a difference. I have not used MX Linux.

Mint is not available in 32 bits any more. I'm running 64 bit Mint and I am using Links in a 64 bit wineprefix at the moment.

Winetricks is just a script file for largely managing Wine itself it provides a menu system to run the various mgt programs from, it will not start any installed applications.

My menu and desktop icons to start Links have the command line:

env WINEPREFIX="/home/gordon/.wine" wine C:\\users\\Public\\Desktop\\Links\ 2003.lnk

So you can see the wineprefix it set first. The menu items the installation created for me.

In this installation I put Links in the default wineprefix. I've installed Links multiple times on this machine in multiple ways.

So MX Linux is the unknown for me.
Armand
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Re: Links and Linux

Post by Armand »

Yeah, I've had a few minor software issues with MX - probably due to my history with Windows more than anything!

When I was looking for a Linux distro to try, I thought I needed 32-bit (that was what every version of Windows that ever was installed on the laptop), and I wanted with with low overhead but not absolutely bare bones. MX was my choice over antiX, although I tried Mint as well (I think I found an older 32-bit version, or perhaps it was still supported a few years ago). After a year or more, I found out that the process is actually 64-bit in the laptop, so I switch to the same architecture for the OS. Not sure that was a great choice with 4GB of RAM, but I can't expand any more.

Anyway, I might try a few more times with MX (using systemd instead of the default sysvinit, 32-bit winetricks, ??) before switching to Mint or other distros. I should just play Links on my Windows 10 machine, but it's kind of fun for me to try to get it going on Linux, even if there is a bit of :wallbash:
dwg
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Location: Australia

Re: Links and Linux

Post by dwg »

I was originally running 64 bit Linux on systems with 4GB of memory so I know it works. With Mint I did find it was better with MATE or XFCE desktops, I have stayed with MATE because I prefer the simpler more classic look. I found XFCE applets lacking.

In the last couple of years I have had a hardware refresh with my Windows machines, what I had was older and Windows had ever increasing demands. So my old Windows machines became my 'new' Linux machines.

I had Links on an old XP system, but it was a nuisance to use and I wanted to rationalise. Hence a project to get it running on Windows 11. It is working well on those systems using the dgVoodoo wrapper.

Ideally though I wanted it also working on my other Notebook, I could boot it into Windows 10, but that is a nuisance, hence my efforts to get it running on Linux. It took a lot of trial and error, plenty of research to just get it running then more still to get it running reliably, I saw plenty of hangs and crashes, strange video screens, one was a screen with just some apparent random lines, since validated that the same happens on the machine under windows, so plenty of issues. What is in the doc is a summary of what I found and how it was fixed. I expect on other systems there could be other issues.

It now runs well on that box which is a Gen 7 i5, with Intel graphics. My old desktop is a Gen 3 i3 and it is not bad on that either.

Winetricks is a script it does not have a "bitness" . The number of 32 bit Linux distributions is declining, as far as I am aware none of the mainstream ones provide one anymore. There is still the Debian 32 bit source, which I think most of the remaining ones use, but the availability of 32 bit applications is also declining.

I used AntiX as a test to see how useful the old Netbook with its Atom N270 processor could be. For limited use it does the job, it is no rocket ship but is workable
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