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How do you rate Atana Hills??
Ace
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
Eagle
16%
 16%  [ 9 ]
Birdie
41%
 41%  [ 22 ]
Par
28%
 28%  [ 15 ]
Bogey - Must be accompanied by an explanatory post!
9%
 9%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 53

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:24 am    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

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What do you think of Atana Hills??

Please vote in the poll.

After you vote, please leave a few comments or some feedback for the designer about his course and why you voted the way you did.



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Atana Hills

Designed in 2002, before/during the time Links 2003 was released. Updated to 2003, but course was too far along to seem blend and change objects. Though not 100% completed, pretty close. My third course, first public release. I'll wait for the next edition of Links before starting on another.

Atana Hills was designed to make you think about club distance a little more within a hilly setting. Hope you enjoy playing it as much as I did in designing.

Larry B Dale


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:20 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Just bumping this up! This is a fun little course that is probably getting overlooked a little! I am finishing up the review right now; and will probably post it later today.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Agree with you Chuck...this is a fun and very challenging course with a unique layout that requires a lot of care in club selection and ball placement. Also, unique planting and setting. Gave it a birdie and a definite keeper on my hard drive. Thanks, Larry, for finishing the course off....definitely one of the sleepers of late 2003/early 2004. Look forward to any future designs.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

i gave it a par. i like the hole layouts, but the repetitive bushes throughout the course deters from the course aesthetically, i'm afradi. if those bushes could be removed in places (especially the rough in front of the tee boxes) i would have given this course a birdie. this aside it is a very nice course. looking forward to further work from this designer...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

I gave Atana Hills a birdie. I liked the layout and the challenging shots you have to play to do well here. Many of the pin positions were especially challenging, and one or two probably a bit too close to the fringe. Overall I very much enjoyed my round at Atana Hills. My compliments to Larry Dale, and thanks for sharing your course with us.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:36 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Chad wrote:
i gave it a par. i like the hole layouts, but the repetitive bushes throughout the course deters from the course aesthetically, i'm afradi. if those bushes could be removed in places (especially the rough in front of the tee boxes) i would have given this course a birdie. this aside it is a very nice course. looking forward to further work from this designer...


I gave it a birdie..

I wish he would have renamed his textures and took the "beta " out of them..
Secret ALOT of designers forget to rename their textures.


I did like the layout and look of this course..

It's a keeper for me..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

I gave it a birdie, also.
I really loved playing this one.
Liked the layout, color, and planting.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

I DL'd it because it had a recommendation and a decent review.

It's very ordinary to me _ I gave it a par. I'm not crazy about the colors and I don't like target golf.It's OK, but there are a lot better out there.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Had mixed feelings about this course. Was wavering between par and birdie, but seeing this is a first time design I gave the designer the benefit of the doubt as to not be too discouraging.

It's an interesting layout, on a unique plot of land that we haven't exactly seen in Links, and there were some good hole layouts. Overall the course was playable and fun, not to mention imaginative. The APCD work isn't outstanding by any stretch, but the designer showed he had a reasonable grasp of it in his first design.

However, there were a number of drawbacks (IMO). The textures didn't look that great (looked a bit blurry--and were named "beta ____" which was annoying) and those yellow-green bushes were scattered everywhere, at times in front of tee boxes obstructing the views off the tees. There were a number of blind shots, and some rather unnatural elevations. For example the green at #2 was raised 10 or 15 feet above the surrounding fairway, which is not realistic. Some of the greens were either too flat or too steep, and some pins were cut within a few feet of the fringe. There were also a few sharp edges here and there. As mentioned, the layout is good for the most part, but there was a lot of hopping between "islands" of fairways...and some of the "hidden" bunkers were hard to avoid. I got the sense that a few holes bordered on fantasy, but not quite.

These observations are intended as nothing more than constructive criticism for the designer, mostly small stuff, this is certainly a good effort and I hope Larry continues designing, as I think he has potential and will only get better. Yes






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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:10 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Birdie for me, verging on an eagle.
Had to make my rating system tougher, as everything was getting an eagle, and Atana just slipped out.

Edit: Oh fudge, I must be getting old.
I mis-remembered the rating - I should have voted, eagle, not birdie - it was the enjoyment factor that tipped it - I give it extra marks if I actually have fun playing a round! Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:25 am    Post subject: Well Done Reply with quote

Not Worthy

I really like this course after playing it a few times. I gave it an eagle -- I wasn't so impressed on the first play -- but each time I play it I like it better.

I'm not sure if the custom textures or colors do a lot for me -- but it plays very well and is quite challenging. Obviously a lot of time went into the details -- all shots are placed well from the back tees -- and many are very challenging. It actually reminds me of a lot of public courses I play in and around the city I live in.

Very well thought out.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:36 am    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Birdie for me.

I wasn't keen on the look of the tee boxes and some of the planting was not to my taste, but overall a very good effort for a first time design.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Bogey, while a nice looking course not mod friendly at all on the greens. too many chips and putts rolled back to longer next shots.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

dbldc- Then I've got a great idea....play it with the stock MOP and you might enjoy the course more. I can see that this course would be really tough with the new MOD due to small elevated greens. Remember this course was developed long before the MOD was and is pretty extreme fantasy type design. Haven't played this one with the MOD and have no intention to....some courses just aren't well suited to the MOD and this is one of them.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Is there no end to the trickery on FICTIONAL courses.

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! spend your time on the 1,000's of REAL courses that have yet to be done... some of which are Pro Tour courses.
When available, see if there are Strackaline maps for the greens for that course. Invest in those maps.

If you absolutely must do FICTIONAL, please at least think REAL GOLF rather than think COMPUTER GAME.

http://www.linkscorner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34039

I posted on what I thought would make a usable, tough but fair FICTIONAL course here. I got constructive criticism and suggestions which I appreciated.

I'm sorry, but I do not consider Atana Hills a hidden gem. Every hole tries to be the signature hole and many of the greens are completely unrealistic. I was waiting to have to putt through a lighthouse or wait for some bowling pins to go up and down and hit my shot just at the right time (miniature golf).


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:42 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

GoesForIt wrote:
Is there no end to the trickery on FICTIONAL courses.

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! spend your time on the 1,000's of REAL courses that have yet to be done... some of which are Pro Tour courses.
When available, see if there are Strackaline maps for the greens for that course. Invest in those maps.

If you absolutely must do FICTIONAL, please at least think REAL GOLF rather than think COMPUTER GAME.

http://www.linkscorner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34039

I posted on what I thought would make a usable, tough but fair FICTIONAL course here. I got constructive criticism and suggestions which I appreciated.

I'm sorry, but I do not consider Atana Hills a hidden gem. Every hole tries to be the signature hole and many of the greens are completely unrealistic. I was waiting to have to putt through a lighthouse or wait for some bowling pins to go up and down and hit my shot just at the right time (miniature golf).


I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with this. A course in Links can be whatever you want it to be. A fictional course does not have to be 'real golf' just because a player demands it.

This is a complete over-reaction.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:58 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

ousgg wrote:


I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with this. A course in Links can be whatever you want it to be. A fictional course does not have to be 'real golf' just because a player demands it.

This is a complete over-reaction.


A complete over-reaction because you say it is? Aren't we all entitled to our opinions. I've ragged on FICTIONAL courses from day one. Atana Hills is just another one. There are some fine ones out there, but they're few and far between.

You're correct, APCD designers can create and post any course they want. I wish there was some way they could keep statistics on how many FICTIONAL courses are played more than once... other than maybe in tournament play. My guess is players return to Firestone, Medinah, Pebble Beach, Bethpage Black and other REAL courses on a much more frequent basis than Atana Hills.

Again, sorry, but I get my opinion and as long as I don't violate the forum rules, I will.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:44 pm    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

One other thing...

When you have greens and pin positions where a missed putt gets all the way to the hole and rolls back to your feet with Moderate (C)/Medium (C), that's a computer game, not a golf course.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:17 am    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

My Mantra (because I could never get APCD to work for me) has always been, anyone who completes a course in APCD deserves a Par or better.

I guess this is the exception that proves the rule. This is just an amazingly incredible pile of donkey poo! It is a golf course hidden in a turd, flushed down a toilet and then rejected by the sewage plant, I assume, at this point specialists wearing HAZMET suits are carefully examining, what I imagine they think is some kind of alien life form.
BOGEY!!! ... there! 12 years of golf course reviews and I finally had to say it!


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject: Atana Hills by Larry Dale (2/2004) Reply with quote

Captain Nemo wrote:
My Mantra (because I could never get APCD to work for me) has always been, anyone who completes a course in APCD deserves a Par or better.

I guess this is the exception that proves the rule. This is just an amazingly incredible pile of donkey poo! It is a golf course hidden in a turd, flushed down a toilet and then rejected by the sewage plant, I assume, at this point specialists wearing HAZMET suits are carefully examining, what I imagine they think is some kind of alien life form.
BOGEY!!! ... there! 12 years of golf course reviews and I finally had to say it!
So tell us Cap. How do you REALLY feel about the course?

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