Open Championship Pin Locations

billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

using Carnoustie 2007 #1891

To all,

Course is baked out. They say 100 yds roll on tee shots.

Greens are slow and receptive.

I played a practice round at B F(C) F(C) I would consider these greens to be mod friendly.

To duplicate the fast conditions, I think F(C) F(C) is the way to go.

What do you all think?

billw

pmgolf · Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Posts: 785 Location Richmond, VA

I agree Bill. The greens are pretty flat. Playable at that speed.

Pete

mashie · Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 495 Location Dallas, Texas

Previously someone had posted stimpmeter readings for all combination of conditions. F/c F/c is listed at 18. Not sure if I believe that, but if it's accurate there's no way the greens at the Open will be at that speed. They are usually slower than the average PGA tour speeds, more like 11.

Stephen Sullivan · Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:05 pm Post subject: Open Championship Pin Locations

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billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

mashie and pmgolf,

It's a shame that the fairway hardness and the green speed are combined into one. These Open conditions are impossible to duplicate. Maybe F(C) M(C) is the way to go as a compromise.

billw

mashie · Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 495 Location Dallas, Texas

You're right Bill, wish they could be set differently. I think the conditions that Steve has listed look about right.

pmgolf · Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Posts: 785 Location Richmond, VA

There are people who believe that Links has perfectly captured real-life stimp speed. I have my doubts. I think F Fc or Fc Mc would approximate 11 to 12 Stimp, but I'll admit I could be wrong. Probably not by much, though.

I've heard golf commentators describe stimp 15 greens as like putting on a glass tabletop. That's the way I feel with Fc Fc. I've never heard anyone mention stimp 18 greens.

Pete

carpentg · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 37 Location Delaware, Ohio

Bill, perhaps at the links players discretion, play up at tee to make the drives more fitting to the playing conditions. I guess Rickey hit a 432yd drive yesterday.

billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

I do have the stimp chart.

billw

billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

Thursday Pin Locations

Front 9: 1,1,12,5,0,4,1,8,15,
Back 9: 16,3,15,1,14,15,10,8,1

No Tee info

Partly Cloudy 65*, wind 6 mph

My Conditions: N F(C) S(C) (stimp 11.5)

billw

billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

I was really surprised that -5 was leading when I came home from work. -5 was leading at 6AM EST. With the conditions, I thought these guys would tear this place up.

billw

billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

Was I wrong. LOL

billw

billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

Friday Pin LOcations

Front 9: 10,15,9,4,14,3,3,12,1
Back 9: 13,2,2,9,17,3,0,16,13

No Tee Info

Rain and Overcast 62*, wind 9 mph

My Conditions: B M(C) S(C) (stimp 10)

billw

billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

Saturday Pin Locations

Front 9: 0,2,3,9,2,13,17,7,0
Back 9: 6,1,11,0,0,2,13,1,3

No Tee Info Today

Cloudy 62*, wind 8 mph

My Conditions: B F(C) S(C)

billw

billw · Joined: 07 Jul 2008 Posts: 1186 Location Maryland

Sunday Pin Locations

Front 9: 12,16,0,10,13,2,1,1,2
Back 9: 7,9,12,3,3,16,3,3,14

No Tee Info Today

Overcast 66*, wind 12 mph , gusts 25 mph

My Conditions: G F(C) S(C)

billw